Grades

[System Malfunction]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

[jennavecia]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1. No I dont think it reflects on anything, nor anyone for that matter.
2. No I dont, thats why if they are a good teacher, they give you your paper back, the one that you failed on, and you get to redo it, or you can get a tutor in the subject, which will bring your grades back up, but its all a matter of resposiblity.

[System Malfunction]

Why do you think that?

[AleksandraStar]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

!. no it does not reflect who the person is because well test are the bi part of the grade and well you know if something might happen to us days before the test and we go into depression we will fail the test and our whole grade wil go down,but it doesnt mean that we are always like that.and i have to say most of my friends are school smart but not "street, life" smart.

2.no and yes,people get failure because they have troubles but if teacher sees that they should offer help,not just sa its bad.

[jennavecia]

Why do you think that?

I think that because, it does not matter what your grades are, if you get a bad grade it does not mean you are a dumb person, you may be bad at the school things, like math, and english and things such, but you may be very wise, in other things. Education, the state or countries form of education, does not mean your an idiot if you fail. You know what im saying?

I think that its a form of resposibility, because if you want to get your grades back up, its up to you to redo that paper that the teacher gave you to redo. if you do not ask that teacher is you can have a tutor, or she can tutor you. Then You will fail. Its a matter of resposiblitly.
Simple as that.

[System Malfunction]

So what about the kids with ADD who can't pay attention, do you think they deserve to fail or get offered help?
same with ADHD or Depressed kids?

[Aaron]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1.) Grades mean nothing of the persons individuality or personality, at the end of the day.. they say how well you achieved at that moment in time, it means nothing about how you are or who you are as a person. ANYONE can get A* and ANYONE can get F's - So it means nothing about you really.

2.) If you fail the test, then you fail, so yes I think that's more than fair... If you're having problems with the subject then you'd need to speak to your teacher or someone and see if changes can be made. It's not fair if you asked for help but the school/college didn't offer to do anything and you failed, nope.

[DiscretelyPsychotic]

No. an amazing future writer that could change the worlds views on a subject could be restrained from writing their story due to the fact that they're being held back in highschool because they can't pass math and science which in turn drives them to dropping out which keeps them from getting the recognition they deserve. That sux.
No, if you're having trouble with a subject they should have teachers that go and teach more thoroughly that way the students understand it more instead of skiming over the surface and then piling stuff on top of the stuff the students didn't catch at first.


=]

[System Malfunction]

So what if you missed a deadline to get a paper in and you end up failing the class and you fail for the term. do you think the teacher should allow you to still make up that so you don't have to attend afterschool or summerschool just to make it up?

[jennavecia]

Well, then the teacher should not ask them if they need help, because the kid ovoisuly will not listen, the teacher needs to go straight to the perents or gardians to ask if they can tutor that child. If the teacher is unable to get that child to listen while he or she is trying to teach the sudent, then the teacher needs to put them in a special class, or have a teacher, that has the right education to teach the special needs kids.

[Aaron]

So what if you missed a deadline to get a paper in and you end up failing the class and you fail for the term. do you think the teacher should allow you to still make up that so you don't have to attend afterschool or summerschool just to make it up?

The school has a set date they need to send the work to an external place (if I'm thinking of the education you're in) so I guess the school/college can only be leanient to a certain extent. It is your responsibility to meet the deadlines, however if they've not supported you and you're having problems with a subject.. then that's terrible and unfair.

[jennavecia]

So what if you missed a deadline to get a paper in and you end up failing the class and you fail for the term. do you think the teacher should allow you to still make up that so you don't have to attend afterschool or summerschool just to make it up?
If the kid, was not resposible enough to turn the paper in at the ocrrect time, they are not responsible enough to be trusted, there for maybe they should go to summerschool. They already git one chance to redo the paper, and they did not trun it in when it was due the second time, there for its summerschool for them.

[AleksandraStar]

i have to say kids with ADD and ADHD should get extra help or more attention payed to them,but depression is different isnt not really a disorder,its more of a personal problem
and i speak from expeirence,i know its hard to deal with things when people are depressed but we have to,if we want to get somewhere in this life

[jennavecia]

i have to say kids with ADD and ADHD should get extra help or more attention payed to them,but depression is different isnt not really a disorder,its more of a personal problem
and i speak from expeirence,i know its hard to deal with things when people are depressed but we have to,if we want to get somewhere in this life

I agree i have been depressed during school hours before, I had to get over it and put my work before my emotions, expecially since im trying to raise my grades. Its not a disorder its a personal problem, having nothing to do with school.
Thats nothing your teahcer can help with. Its somthing your conciler, or someone can help with.

[AleksandraStar]

thanks for agreeing with me,and the missing the dead line part,well that is actually a students problem.If someting bad happened like a death in the family then i understand but anything other it should not be accepted.

[System Malfunction]

(For missing a deadline)
What if you just returned from a long vacation like I had.
Say a paper came out during the week you were gone and was due before you even returned but you were not excused from it, such as I was. Does this seem as fair, or was one of us in the wrong?

[jennavecia]

thanks for agreeing with me,and the missing the dead line part,well that is actually a students problem.If someting bad happened like a death in the family then i understand but anything other it should not be accepted.

Yeah, and i think we won this debate.If it even was one..lol..
We had all the answers.

Read all my anwsers do they make since?

[jennavecia]

(For missing a deadline)
What if you just returned from a long vacation like I had.
Say a paper came out during the week you were gone and was due before you even returned but you were not excused from it, such as I was. Does this seem as fair, or was one of us in the wrong?

Maybe you shoudl have done it before you left, so you could have turned it in before you left to where ever you left to.

[System Malfunction]

I think everyone is on the same page for this debate. so I guess it is simply a discussion. which means I should delete this thread lulz >.<

[jennavecia]

I think everyone is on the same page for this debate. so I guess it is simply a discussion. which means I should delete this thread lulz >.<

haha. It is a descussion i guess.

Agreed. You should delte it if you want to.

[AleksandraStar]

actually on that deadline a agree with you because that happened to me i left for a month so i missed a whole unit i got a zero on everything even thought i asked my teachers before i left what i had to do,but they said nothing.So that left a major dent in my mark at the end of the semester.i really dont know how i passed

[jennavecia]

actually on that deadline a agree with you because that happened to me i left for a month so i missed a whole unit i got a zero on everything even thought i asked my teachers before i left what i had to do,but they said nothing.So that left a major dent in my mark at the end of the semester.i really dont know how i passed

Maybe you got credit for at least asking..or maybe you had good enough grades to just slidepat that big missing assignment.

[System Malfunction]

No way. I'm getting credit for these lame posts I am making lulz.

[jennavecia]

No way. I'm getting credit for these lame posts I am making lulz.

haha then ok you do what you want lol ^.^

[System Malfunction]

I was gone for two weeks. but the teacher said that he would allow me to make it up if he surprizes the class with an essay or something.
come to happen. half a week after I had left. he had the class do a 4 page assignment, that was due the Monday before I returned. so I was pretty much cut out, since this was last week, and I returned on wednesday. Term ended on thrusday. I had no chance.

[jennavecia]

I was gone for two weeks. but the teacher said that he would allow me to make it up if he surprizes the class with an essay or something.
come to happen. half a week after I had left. he had the class do a 4 page assignment, that was due the Monday before I returned. so I was pretty much cut out, since this was last week, and I returned on wednesday. Term ended on thrusday. I had no chance.

Then you shoudl get your perens to talk to your teacher about it, or just work extra hard to get your grade up for the next term

[System Malfunction]

Ha, I gave up anyways. I seen I had an F and went to him to talk about it, but all he had to say was "sorry" or something like that, I couldn't pay attention. I'm more upset that I failed Math and PE =\
lulz. not really PE but mostly Math. My best subject and I failed.

[jennavecia]

Ha, I gave up anyways. I seen I had an F and went to him to talk about it, but all he had to say was "sorry" or something like that, I couldn't pay attention. I'm more upset that I failed Math and PE =
lulz. not really PE but mostly Math. My best subject and I failed.

Well try and get it up, work extra hard this semester.

[System Malfunction]

Woo. Lame.
I need to transfer schools and get a fresh start.
My record here is just outrageous.

[jennavecia]

Woo. Lame.
I need to transfer schools and get a fresh start.
My record here is just outrageous.


Haha that sux. Just finish the school year, and then switch schools.

[System Malfunction]

ahh
what about dropping out?
what are you outlooks on that?

[jennavecia]

ahh
what about dropping out?
what are you outlooks on that?

My outlooks on that is that its a stupid dission. You can riun your job carrer choices, and possibly your life, because you cant get a good enough job, and make money. You were to lazy to work like everyone else had to do. If you finish highschool it will pay off in the future.

[Lou.Lou]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?



im failing english =[
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[DTL]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1) Hmm. Sometimes, just depends on what job you are wanting etc.
2) Yes and no. No because some people need extra help and time, Yes because some people need help, but they didn't ask for help because they didn't want to get called 'dumb' or what not.

[Fauxxis]

I think dropping out is a bad decision, because it ruins your life because nowadays you need a college degree to go into almost anything.

I also think that general schooling is a bad thing. I believe that you should get schooling from the start on what you actually want to do. Who needs to know when the first world war took place when you want to be a monster truck driver?

[ninaYAYA[x]]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

Little late but i thought i'd just throw in some input.
I dont think grades reflect on people as a person. i think they reflect your ability to learn at a certain pace in a certain topic. In my opinion, the whole point of grades aren't that you get great ones, it's that you try to get a better one next time.

Also, i myself don't believe anyone should ever be given a failing grade. Neither does my school. The lowest grade you can be given by a teacher is an E, which just means that you need help on the topic.
We like positive reinforcement.

[ninaYAYA[x]]

ahh
what about dropping out?
what are you outlooks on that?

My sister dropped out of school at 15.
She had been to several different senior schools, where she was bullied by her teachers and her fellow students.
School just wasnt for her.
She never did her GCSE's.
She tried going to college instead, and completed a performing arts course, unfortunately, the college closed down and none of the students who completed that course recieved their diploma.
It closed down because the owner wanted to buy a boat.
Things went downhill for a long time.

She's currently doing her NVQ level 3 - as many of you will know, in the eyes of an employer one NVQlvl 3 is worth the same as 5 GCSE's.
She's going to work in childcare.
In her case, i believe that her decision to leave school was for the best. It wasn't right for her as a person.

So my opinion on dropping out is that it depends on who you are, and if you're dedicated enough to go down other routes to get the qualifications you need for the vocation you want.

[System Malfunction]

Don't worry about your guys' inputs.
I started this late last night and wanted as many idea's thrown in as possible<3

[Froladriel]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1)I don't think grades give you the full description of a person. Not at all. It's just a slight hint at what type of person they may be. I know plenty of people who have low grades but are actually very smart. And I know people who are BSing they're way through highschool, getting good grades, but aren't that intelligent.

2) Hmm, this is a tough one. I think you'd have to judge every situation individually, and depending on the intensity of the problem, you could say if it's fair or unfair. But every student has their responsibilities in school.

[Lou.Lou]

schools hard =[
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[Vampi]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1.) No. Usually they may show them to be a bit lazy, if this is in fact the case for the individual, but for the most part, no. My grades barely even reflect a BIT of my personality. No one can truly know me unless they talk to me and get to know me. Grades mean nothing.

2.) No. If you are truly trying something, it is not fair to be failed. PERIOD.
That is never okay, especially because I've known kids who were genuinely trying, to be given a failing grade, then to just give up. Some people literally cannot grasp certain things. It is above them. Noting wrong with them, just something they're not goos at.


-AHV

[XDanielleX]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1: No. I know lots of people that have terrible grades and they're really nice people. And I know lots of people who're really smart and they're horrible. And vice versa! People who aren't too smart can be horrible, and smart people can be really nice.
2: It all depends if you seek out help. If you get tutoring and lots of help but you still fail, then I don't think it's fair. But if you do nothing to get help then I think it's your fault.

Regarding to ADD kids who can't concentrate, then I don't think they should be failed just because they didn't concentrate. Maybe they tried really hard!

[xAllie831x]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1. Grades can reflect any of these three things:
a. The quality of academics at a person's previous school.
b. A person's study habits.
c. A person's intelligence.
^One or more of those can reflect a person, and it depends on the individual... The people that get good grades will always be the "smart kids", but everything else about them can vary... I know people that came from really good schools but act really immature, and I know mature people that go to cruddy schools. -shrugs- "Ditch the label" really applies here.

2. If you seek help, tutoring, etc. no. If you just keep saying "I'll do better next time" and never do, yes. I would get straight As in geometry and then bomb the test, and after talking to my teacher (who's really nice... if you have a bad teacher, you are in a tougher spot) we were able to figure out that I was studying the book too much instead of my notes. (My school has an advanced program and the book is just to be used for practice problems, apparently.) Now, I am getting an A in the class... If you are getting a bad grade, what are you doing to change it?

[brendabearr]

1. well i don't really think so.. unless it's that thing where higher grades mean you're a geek and stuff, but other than that ehh.. not really. the only thing i hate is when you usually get grades, USUALLY. so when you get a bad grade people are like WHOA! I BEAT YOU! and all that stuff. but people aren't perfect
2. no, i don't think it's fair. because the person really failing is the teacher, she failed to teach you correctly or fully. If you are having trouble with a subject you should get extra help with it from your teacher.

gahh i hope things get bettaa =]

[Morbid_Mandi]

No, I dont think that peoples grades reflect who they are, someone could be really, really bright but not try at school.
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And, no I dont think that people should be failed for not understanding, but there is a difference between not understanding and not paying attention/trying. I guess it really depends
:]]]

[Nathan]

I dont think they reflect becauseeee

I know the stuff in class, I'm the one who answers all the questions right but when it comes to exams, i do absolutely rubbish.

I should get A's but i get D's instead, its not that im lazy or anything - I just suffer in exams


I also dont think it's fair to be given a failure grade because you're struggling, UNLESS you fail.. If you're struggling you should be given extra help to iron out any problems...

I've noticed that in schools where I live, the majority of the help is given to those who are the 'brainier' kids, whereas they should spend more time helping those who need it most

[Morbid_Mandi]

I dont think they reflect becauseeee

I know the stuff in class, I'm the one who answers all the questions right but when it comes to exams, i do absolutely rubbish.

I should get A's but i get D's instead, its not that im lazy or anything - I just suffer in exams


I also dont think it's fair to be given a failure grade because you're struggling, UNLESS you fail.. If you're struggling you should be given extra help to iron out any problems...

I've noticed that in schools where I live, the majority of the help is given to those who are the 'brainier' kids, whereas they should spend more time helping those who need it most
well the reason for that is bc the "brainier" kids are the ones who want to expand their knowledge
lol

they are willing to seek out that help
but I do agree that they should help others
:]

[StalkersAnonymous]

My question is...
1.) Do you think your grades, or other peoples grades, in school reflect on who they are?
2.) Do you think its fair to be given a failure grade if you are having troubles with the subject?

1. Sometimes I think it reflects on PARTS of who they are. Like if theyre too lazy to study and they get bad grades because of it.
2. Yes I think its totally fair, if you have problems get help. If you cant figure it out even with help...well the whole grade shouldnt have to stop just because of you.