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RustiRockstar
04-03-2008, 11:11 PM
Oh yes, the eternal question.
I was just watching the news, and they were talking about how
if a man loses his cool, it's publicly accepted and considered okay,
but if a woman were to lose her cool, would people react in the same way?
Decidedly not.
She could be viewed as insane or just using her anger as a desperate attempt for attention.
I thought men and women were considered more equal than this.
I can't stand double standards.
Thoughts?

Emiko
04-03-2008, 11:14 PM
I think we are equal. My grandmother thinks men are above women, but that may be because she is Christian...She says the bible says men are better than women or something. -shrugs- I don't believe that. Woman are just a good as men. Women need men, men need women. Truthfully, we couldnt live without each other. We are equal, and people need to realize that. ^.^

Vampi
04-03-2008, 11:32 PM
I think we are equal. My grandmother thinks men are above women, but that may be because she is Christian...She says the bible says men are better than women or something. -shrugs- I don't believe that. Woman are just a good as men. Women need men, men need women. Truthfully, we couldnt live without each other. We are equal, and people need to realize that. ^.^

I am Christian, and do not believe Men to be better than Women. I actually think the opposite: many men have proven a VAST majority deal with personal issues and other problems in negative ways, while women tend to think out issues and talk themselves into RESOLVE, rather than through violence.

anyways: There will ALWAYS be a double-standard, unfortunately. This is just how it will be.


-Vampi

Nathan
04-03-2008, 11:36 PM
I think women are stereotypically supposed to be 'more in touch with their feelings' whereas guys are stereotypically 'more easily angered'.

It's a proven fact that women out do men in education

xAllie831x
04-04-2008, 12:48 AM
Oh yes, the eternal question.
I was just watching the news, and they were talking about how
if a man loses his cool, it's publicly accepted and considered okay,
but if a woman were to lose her cool, would people react in the same way?
Decidedly not.
She could be viewed as insane or just using her anger as a desperate attempt for attention.
I thought men and women were considered more equal than this.
I can't stand double standards.
Thoughts?

Are there differences between the average man and woman? Yes.

Many men and women are built differently- men being stronger and women being more emotional, for example. Whether this is because of biology or society (personally I think it's a bit of both), as well as just how much of this can be changed by the individual can go up for debate, but yes it does generally ring true... Do this make one better or worse then the other? By all means, no!

My aunt, for example, worked in advertising for almost 30 years... We had a conversation about gender, and she feels that women (who are more emotional and can understand people more) tend to make the better managers, while men tend make the better executives (a job that requires less emotion and more business). At first I had to think about it, but I have to say it often is true... Obviously there are exceptions to this, but I can definitely see where she is coming from... This would explain why my Health, Art, Latin (language), and History teachers are women, while my Physics and Math teachers are men, as well as the gaps between girls and boys on reading and math tests.

Now, the exceptions:
1. In my school's case, the exception to this is the Lit teacher. BUT- although he's a man, he is very liberal and tends to take the side of oppressed groups... Whenever gender comes up, he takes the woman's side. (He had a whole debate on "the male ego", and to be honest I didn't think that was fair or right.)
2. As far as grades, back when I was at my previous school (a "normal" one), almost the entire honor roll was female. When I started my magnet school (everyone is smart), however, the gender gaps came back... If you focus on any of my classes and study each group (not counting the kids that went to elusive private schools and are obviously at a better advantage), you can clearly see them.

I know a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but that's just how I view gender... I say judge by the individual, but be aware of what is often true.

Now, do double standarads exist? Yes. With both genders.

If a teen girl has sex, she's often viewed as a *****.
If a teen guy has sex, he's a player.

If a woman makes jokes about men, it's often viewed as nothing.
If a guy makes jokes about women, he's often viewed as sexist.

In your case, I'm not so sure... An angry man is accepted while an angry woman isn't, because their actions are being caused by different things... That's terrible- Actions are actions, and people have to live with both their flaws and strengths.

In defense of guys: I think it's wrong that a woman can slap a guy, but if it was the other way around the guy would get arrested... Men are often stronger, but the act in itself is wrong in both both cases. :(

Diversity: A strength and weakness.

AleksandraStar
04-04-2008, 12:51 AM
well i think men and women should be equal,BUT that is just not possible.
Some peoplse say that women are smarter than men,and to some point i have to agree.I see women to be more open minded then men,(but not all men in general).I think that boys age of 15-25 are more open-mided butt hen they kind of shut down their brain.And refuse to accept change and new hings.While women are staying the same,but i have to say there are women that are not open minded at all.

RustiRockstar
04-04-2008, 12:52 AM
In my opinion, I think we're all pretty amazing.
We need each other.
And I've noticed that girls and boys both have ideas about each other,
Like
Girl:All boys only want one thing.
Boys:Girls are easy if you know how to handle them.
Neither of which are true.

See?
:rolleyes:
It may never change,
but if I have any say about it,
things will be better.
For everyone.

XDanielleX
04-04-2008, 04:16 AM
What annoys me is that women and men still have set roles in the home.
My mum cooks. My dad comes home from work and eats the food.
This is for a reason, though. My mum has an auto-immune disease that makes it impossible to work because she gets major fatigue, but it's always been like that, even before she got it and worked. She cooked, even when she got home after dad. Granted, my dad cleans, but he's a tidy freak. And if there's cleaning for more than one person, it's always,
"Danielle, help your mother". I don't mind helping, but when my brother who's just as capable just sits there and watches, it gets on my nerves BIG time. So I'm always the one reminding my brother to help.
And my family always automatically assumed that I want kids when I get older. I hate children and I'm no good with them, and I don't see my having one. It took a lot of convincing for them to shut up about it and get it through their heads that maybe I don't want any, and to stop harping on about it.
If I get married, it's going to be equal cooking, equal chores and things like that. I'm not going to make my parent's mistake and get stuck in the old habit of doing the job that your sex is traditionally associated with.

Mr-J4m3s
04-04-2008, 04:56 AM
I sooo dont agree with the whole women vs men!
I believe in equality lol... :P
The Ying Yang theory is soo correct...
Each sex survives with a bit of the opposite within them... To create balance and harmony...
Lets all be Zen.... LOL

Jack
04-04-2008, 11:57 AM
I think women are stereotypically supposed to be 'more in touch with their feelings' whereas guys are stereotypically 'more easily angered'.

It's a proven fact that women out do men in education

That's veryyyyyyyyyy generalized... I get straight As and A+s at school... while other girls in my school regularly get Ds and Es. I'm not saying I'm better than the other girls, but one boy can be more clever or "book smart" than a certain girl, and visa versa.
:]

Dann
04-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Oh yes, the eternal question.
I was just watching the news, and they were talking about how
if a man loses his cool, it's publicly accepted and considered okay,
but if a woman were to lose her cool, would people react in the same way?
Decidedly not.
She could be viewed as insane or just using her anger as a desperate attempt for attention.
I thought men and women were considered more equal than this.
I can't stand double standards.
Thoughts?

Heather Mills much =l
I HATE that woman. grr.
x

_Davey
04-05-2008, 06:44 PM
Well, people wouldn't act the same if a woman lost her cool publicly the same as a man losing his cool, because a man would probably look and act alot more threatening. Although that isn't the case with most of the ladies I know. I'd be more scared of them to be honest.

Darren
04-15-2008, 12:42 AM
I believe in Equality too...

But

I think men are more likely to lose their cool than women (such as the men in my family...MAJOR anger issues) so people are probably used to it....But i always thought men got dodgey looks when they lost their cool.....i would definatly give a bloke a dodgey look if he went mental in the middle of the street.

StalkersAnonymous
04-15-2008, 04:09 AM
Oh yes, the eternal question.
I was just watching the news, and they were talking about how
if a man loses his cool, it's publicly accepted and considered okay,
but if a woman were to lose her cool, would people react in the same way?
Decidedly not.
She could be viewed as insane or just using her anger as a desperate attempt for attention.
I thought men and women were considered more equal than this.
I can't stand double standards.
Thoughts?


Personally I think that we are equal but many other people still hold onto older ways where women were considered second-class citizens. And in many cultures women still are.

But for the people who believe the Bible word for word should probably read Genesis 2:24
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Its really controversial because alot of other people say that because a woman is (most of the time) the weaker species they should be treated as such. Thats why alot of holy men say that beating their wives is perfectly A OKAY because "woman was made after man."

Fauxxis
04-16-2008, 12:53 AM
Personally, I think some women can control their anger or they keep it inside more often.
Like how people are fake-nice.
and they say "Oh hello how are you?" Even though they really don't care or want to know.
I think men are a tidbit more expressive with their feelings, and if their angry they show it.

Of course it is not always this way and in some cases is the opposite, but that's just what I tend to think.

xAllie831x
04-20-2008, 07:45 AM
Personally I think that we are equal but many other people still hold onto older ways where women were considered second-class citizens. And in many cultures women still are.

But for the people who believe the Bible word for word should probably read Genesis 2:24
"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Its really controversial because alot of other people say that because a woman is (most of the time) the weaker species they should be treated as such. Thats why alot of holy men say that beating their wives is perfectly A OKAY because "woman was made after man."

Could that just be a reference to sex and marriage? 0.o I've heard theories that that quote and the "forbidden fruit" are just references to sex... And, all jokes aside, I wouldn't doubt that... Sex was something that up until recently wasn't openly talked about (think the scenes in old movies where it was symbolized by those creepy falling leaves; this is coming from my aunt that's in her 50s and grew up during a feminist era) and that was probably how it was back then as well. The Bible is supposedly loaded with parables, and if they wanted to make sex and marriage seem holy, they'd have to word it like one. ("You can't rip a body in half" would be the argument against divorce.)

System Malfunction
04-20-2008, 08:00 AM
Okay... I hope I understood this right, instead of taking it some wrong way :-]
but uhh, I see the fact of men and women being treated equally as hard to say as Coloured and Noncoloured being treated equal, or gay/lesbian treated as an equal to straight. equallity is not so easily aquired when its a group of people wanted to be treated the same as another. people shal always have their favorites. even in school. you have your group of kids who get more attention from teachers because the teachers favor them over another. Women and Men (Men and Women) are to different things. Most peoples minds instantly select things on their own. Most people would easily talk to an angel before they would talk to a deamon. that is how the brain often works. People will always put one before another.

Sorry if I sound retarded :D

Morbid_Mandi
04-20-2008, 08:01 AM
you dont soudn retarted you actually make alot of sense
and a bit more real then some others
:]

System Malfunction
04-20-2008, 08:06 AM
:D
Well I had no idea what I was talking about.

Morbid_Mandi
04-20-2008, 08:08 AM
bahaha
only you could say soemthing so real
without knowing what you were talking about
only you sys
:D

System Malfunction
04-20-2008, 08:14 AM
haha :-]
I'm sure there are others.

Morbid_Mandi
04-20-2008, 08:15 AM
not that ive talked to
:]

System Malfunction
04-20-2008, 08:16 AM
have you not talked to more people than Myself and Benny?

Morbid_Mandi
04-20-2008, 08:18 AM
many others
you are just the main 2 i talk to from this site

System Malfunction
04-20-2008, 08:26 AM
ahh
I'll talk to you some time soon,
I have to hop offline now =\

Morbid_Mandi
04-20-2008, 08:32 AM
haha
okeydoke
bye
:]

Torchskins
04-20-2008, 08:10 PM
Lets face facts there no such thing as women vs. men because all women cant be better than all men at one thing and vice-versa, its physically impossible. Its a joke linking caricaturists to gender because it sounds like when people say it, like men loose all emotional depth because they are men