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Lou.Lou
04-09-2008, 01:59 PM
so whats your opinion
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Something-Witty
04-09-2008, 07:06 PM
I'm pretty much a fence sitter.
After all if my mum beleived in abortion I probably wouldn't be here. Which is quite a humbling thought in itself.

I think it depends on the situation, if there's been a XXXX, or a woman can't provide for a baby in her life right nw, then it is a viable option.
Though I'm gonna stop there before I go into major essay mode xD

But it's only an option, and there are other ones. I'm pro choice, not anti life.

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 07:13 PM
i personally is against it. i would think about it if i was raped or i knew the baby's standard of life is really low.


There is plenty of help and support for mums.

beyondweird
04-09-2008, 07:16 PM
I'm for it, but I do think the limit is way too long - it should be a lot shorter.

Although I personally couldn't do it, and I don't agree with people aborting a child because it will be disabled, I do agree that the option should remain open for people.

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Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 07:18 PM
i wouldnt abort if i found out it had a disability. but i knew the quality of their life would be low then i would consider it.
i work with children so i understand about disabilities and their quality of life.

ZakGreed
04-09-2008, 07:52 PM
Here, we have touched on a topic that I myself have stayed up pondering. Personally, I am against abortion 100%. Even if you know that you cannot support the child, You should still have the baby, but put it up for adoption. In the world there are many people who want children, but cannot have them for some reason or another. With this option, you are instilling life into the new child, and you are giving one lucky family the child they have always wanted.

XDanielleX
04-09-2008, 08:20 PM
I'm for it but within reason. I don't think people should just sleep with others without protection and think that they can just get an abortion if they get pregnant. But I still think people should have the choice. If it isn't going to have a good life, then why have it and committ it to that? People say that you can adopt it out, but what if you can't do it once it's born because you don't have the strength?

If you're underage then your parents may not let you adopt it out. So I think that it should be a choice for everyone.
If I got pregant I would abort it simply because I'm too young and I wouldn't be able to look after it properly. I dislike children and don't plan to have any, but that isn't the main reason why I would.
If I was raped, then I would abort it as well. Who wants those memories looking at you every day? It might even impair your ability to love her/him.

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 08:43 PM
so whats your opinion
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Well, although I am a mommy so I am pretty much against abortion for myself, I am not for others. I realize there are things in life that make it very difficult for people to have or raise babies. I do think that you should have the baby and put it up for adoption if anything, don't get me wrong I am pro-choice but it breaks my heart that there are people in the world who cannot have babies and would love to be pregnant, pregnancy is a gift and although I believe it's a womans right, no matter what she uses for reasoning, your body, YOUR choice. I do believe everyone has this thought or atleast 90% of women. Here's my story.

MY STORY:
I got pregnant when I was 20 and I was scared shitless. I didn't want a baby. I didn't want to grow up and I was scared to be a mom. Before it was confirmed that I in fact WAS pregnant, I was headstrong that I was gonna get an abortion. I told my boyfriend (who is my husband now) that I wasn't going to keep the baby if I was pregnant. I was gonna be 21 in a few months and I had some partying to still do!

Well, a few weeks later, my period didn't come, agian. SO I peed on the stick and almost instantaneously it read pregnant. I was like Shittttt!! I went and got Brandon and told him. When I showed him the pregnancy test reading positive, He looked at me, and his eyes welled up and he said "Katie, we can't take this gift away" I was shocked. All the blood rushed to my feet and this flash came over me and this strong feeling of love and life. Almost immediately I changed my mind and I felt like an butthole for even contemplating abortion. All the sudden all my childish bullshit went out the door and I was set on being a Mom. The look he gave me and the reasoning I had wasn't worth taking this innocent life away.

I will tell you now, I thank god every single day of my life that I didn't take my babies life away. She is my world. Every single day and every breath I take revolves around her. She has been the only thing I can lean on, my shelter, my strength, my reason for life. She is only 2 1/2 but I tell you what, even the selfish thought of having an abortion and not having her in my life kills me. I can't even believe I thought about abortion. I know had I got one, I would have never been able to live with myself. It breaks my heart to even think I thought about that.

Ever since I had her, I've grown up so much. I've became more willing to live and learn. I've learned not only how to appropriately take care of myself, but my daughter as well. I live for seeing my baby girls beautiful face. She is my inspiration to succeed in life. I love seeing her learn and grow. From the talking, to singing ABC's to potty training, it's an amazing experience. She just amazes me every single day. She's SO much fun. She says the funniest things. When she says "Mommy I wuz you" It melts my heart. I can't believe I almost gave up all of this because of selfishness.

On another note, it's SO fun to dress and decorate their rooms!!! You get to play with all those toys you did as a kid and you get to do fun things and not be considered dorky, like the zoo, parks, waterslides! You get to watch all the cool kids shows and be proud! Being a parent is an amazing experience. No matter how young or old you are, you can be a great parent as long as you throw selfishness away! :)

Katie

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 08:50 PM
I'm pretty much a fence sitter.
After all if my mum beleived in abortion I probably wouldn't be here. Which is quite a humbling thought in itself.

I think it depends on the situation, if there's been a XXXX, or a woman can't provide for a baby in her life right nw, then it is a viable option.
Though I'm gonna stop there before I go into major essay mode xD

But it's only an option, and there are other ones. I'm pro choice, not anti life.

I think I went into super essay mode there lol :) It's a tough topic throughout the world, but it's your choice. You'll live with it the rest of your life...

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 08:51 PM
I'm for it but within reason. I don't think people should just sleep with others without protection and think that they can just get an abortion if they get pregnant. But I still think people should have the choice. If it isn't going to have a good life, then why have it and committ it to that? People say that you can adopt it out, but what if you can't do it once it's born because you don't have the strength?

Danielle, well said!!!! I have many friends who had abortions for that exact reason, to me that's not worth it, you sleep around and thats your consequence, live with it, you know?

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 08:52 PM
i wouldnt abort if i found out it had a disability. but i knew the quality of their life would be low then i would consider it.
i work with children so i understand about disabilities and their quality of life.

OOh I see you said hi to me :) Hello!!!

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 08:56 PM
hi :)

Amy
04-09-2008, 09:38 PM
Fanfriggintastic, Your post was incredible. +rep for that. :)

I agree that it should under NO circumstances be used as a way of planned contraception. I also agree that it is totally and utterly cowardly to opt for an abortion if you know your child has a disability. Thats pretty much the same as going round shooting every current human being with some kind of physical or mental handicap.. Its just wrong. I ALSO agree that the time in which you can have an abortion is far too long.
The latest you can have an abortion is at 12 weeks... (or in exceptional circumstances, 22 weeks) ... but at 12 weeks, your baby has all its fingers, all its toes, eyes, ears, a mouth, and forming organs... Its a mini-version of what it comes out like.. (see spoiler)



How anyone can kill that, I dont know.
As Fanfriggintastic said, although the initial thought is tempting, once you warm to the idea of being a mum, abortion DOES end up being a selfish thing..
Im sorry to say it, but it IS murder.

Yes. End of me ranting. :)

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 09:41 PM
aborting if the child had low or even no quality of life is the option i would choose. My sister friend can do nothing for herself. she is in a wheelchair she can't feed her self give her a drink, bath or go toilet on her own. her mum knew this would happen. now what quality of life would that be for the child. My sister friend is constantly in pain.

in my opinion i could not bring my self to give birth to that. however much i want a child i do not believe want alon is a reason to have a child. you have to think about what your childs life would be like.

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 09:46 PM
Fanfriggintastic, Your post was incredible. +rep for that. :)

I agree that it should under NO circumstances be used as a way of planned contraception. I also agree that it is totally and utterly cowardly to opt for an abortion if you know your child has a disability. Thats pretty much the same as going round shooting every current human being with some kind of physical or mental handicap.. Its just wrong. I ALSO agree that the time in which you can have an abortion is far too long.
The latest you can have an abortion is at 12 weeks... (or in exceptional circumstances, 22 weeks) ... but at 12 weeks, your baby has all its fingers, all its toes, eyes, ears, a mouth, and forming organs... Its a mini-version of what it comes out like.. (see spoiler)



How anyone can kill that, I dont know.
As Fanfriggintastic said, although the initial thought is tempting, once you warm to the idea of being a mum, abortion DOES end up being a selfish thing..
Im sorry to say it, but it IS murder.

Yes. End of me ranting. :)

I can't even imagine, 12 weeks, in just 4 more weeks you could know the sex of your baby and start planning for the future. That breaks my heart. Although I believe it's your choice, if you seriously think about abortion, you need to make a responsible concious choice and realize you will live every single day of your life with the "what if" factor. Like I said before, my daughter has changed my life completely and knowing that I even entertained the idea, breaks my heart to peices, especially when those big blue eyes look at me. I can't believe I thought about taking that babies life away. It's insane what a difference actually having her is. She has a teenie bruise on her and I freak out, pray that she will recover and I definitely over react to any ache or pain she might have and the thought of losing her is now the worse thought I can ever imagine. Now I went from wanting her gone, to praying to god no one EVER takes her from me, and making certain nothing can and that is the way it should be. To know I could have taken her myself, eats me up and now I do all I can to protect her from anything bad happening, thats the reality of having a child. I agree 100% it's murder and I can't bear the weight the thought holds!!!!

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 09:49 PM
i think the legal age of the fetus when you can abort is too high. i hav always said i am 110% against. but circumstances CAN change. like i said in previous post that would be the only reason i personally would abort.

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 09:56 PM
If my child was going to be mentally handicapped, I am not sure I would abort, I would rather adopt that child out to someone capable of doing it or bring the child to a place that understands them and can help me raise them. I made that child, whether metally capable or not they are apart of me. I know it would hurt and if I did have to make that choice my thoughts may be different, but there are some amazing people in this world who could take care of that child. On another note, if my daughter was in an accident or anything and she ended up handicapped (mentally) I wouldn't kill her. That's the same sort of scenario I think. Although the quality of life may be dim, let them live for the time they can. and in my experience, it's the mentally handicapped people who are always smiling, happy, silly and loving life, I wouldnt take that away from anyone, no matter what. Just my honest opinion.

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 10:03 PM
To be honest if a child had an accident and was handicapped to me that is totally different.

Abortion is a good idea but if the child was so diabled he/she could not even smile what sort of life would that child have??

I understand all the points raised. but raising a child is difficult ( i work with 2-3 year olds) it is even harder. my nephew has cerebal palsy i would not of had an abortion because of that.

Like i said i would only abort if the child was handicapped in that way. what sort of life would the child have and what sort of life would the parents/carers have. Yea saying you could put the child up for abortion is a good idea. but being realistic would you really have this child raised in someone else care.

If you knew the child would be like that then surely you would know the risks and then decide.

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 10:08 PM
Definitely why I say it's your choice. My personal reasons are way different than a lot of peoples and I said that in the very beginning. This subject holds so many different opinions and even if I don't agree, I respect each and every one of them :)

Jaymee-Marie
04-09-2008, 10:09 PM
Definitely why I say it's your choice. My personal reasons are way different than a lot of peoples and I said that in the very beginning. This subject holds so many different opinions and even if I don't agree, I respect each and every one of them :)


Yup agree :) especially with the respect.

AleksandraStar
04-09-2008, 11:02 PM
I agree with Jaymee,i am against abortion unless you know that the child will be with big problems and will not be able to have any kind of life.But any other reasons i think abortion should not be allowed.Its cruel especialy now.The world changed so much soon women wil be able to tell the eye color and the hair color of thier baby in just a few weeks of pregnancy,or i think they can now.So people will think "i want a brwn eye,blond baby" so if they dont get that they will abort.How unhuman that really is,what happened to accept everything no matter how bad it is?what happened to loving someone from what they are inside not outside.So people would love thier baby more just because they have blue eyes,and not brown.I think its stupid and pointless.People like that should not have kids.

Fanfriggintastic
04-09-2008, 11:16 PM
I agree with Jaymee,i am against abortion unless you know that the child will be with big problems and will not be able to have any kind of life.But any other reasons i think abortion should not be allowed.Its cruel especialy now.The world changed so much soon women wil be able to tell the eye color and the hair color of thier baby in just a few weeks of pregnancy,or i think they can now.So people will think "i want a brwn eye,blond baby" so if they dont get that they will abort.How unhuman that really is,what happened to accept everything no matter how bad it is?what happened to loving someone from what they are inside not outside.So people would love thier baby more just because they have blue eyes,and not brown.I think its stupid and pointless.People like that should not have kids.

I can't even fathom that someone would want to abort for such petty reasons! I want to seriously slap those who chose like that. Those are the ones who don't deserve to be parents anyways!!!!

AleksandraStar
04-10-2008, 03:54 AM
I can't even fathom that someone would want to abort for such petty reasons! I want to seriously slap those who chose like that. Those are the ones who don't deserve to be parents anyways!!!!

I really dont know why people would do that,but when i heard about it,it just made me sick.I couldnt belive it.I really didnt think that world is that crazy

Emiko
04-10-2008, 03:59 AM
I disagree with abortion. I don't think anyone should kill a child before it is born, no matter what....well, only one thing is ok. If the woman and the baby is going to die during the birth, it would be ok for her to have an abortion.....ANY other time is not right!!!! Thats my opinion.......^.^

Jaymee-Marie
04-10-2008, 07:11 PM
I disagree with abortion. I don't think anyone should kill a child before it is born, no matter what....well, only one thing is ok. If the woman and the baby is going to die during the birth, it would be ok for her to have an abortion.....ANY other time is not right!!!! Thats my opinion.......^.^


If i was pregnant and was told i would die if i carried on the pregnancy then to be honest i think i would rather die and allow my child to live.

Nathan
04-10-2008, 07:24 PM
I think it's down to the mothers choice.

But it should be brought down from 24 weeks.
To 12-16.
3-4 months is more than enough time to a) find our you're pregnant and b) decide to abort.

Babies have survived at 24 months, it's basically murder to get rid of it if it COULD survive at that amount of months

Jaymee-Marie
04-10-2008, 07:27 PM
24 months do you mean 24 weeks :)

I agree totally

Darren
04-10-2008, 08:01 PM
It's the same as murder.

How could a woman think about killing her own child? Even if it's unborn it's still alive =/


Well that's my opinion anyway.

StalkersAnonymous
04-10-2008, 08:32 PM
hm well I think that in some cases it is perefctly fine to have an abortion like if youre 13 and you nor the father can take care of it. (Although it was stupid not to wear a condom) I think the worst thing that you can do is have it then give it up for adoption. That baby could have tons of emotional damage for that and never really be a normal person.
Personally I wouldnt want to do that to my baby.

But if you're like 34 and you're just stupid enough to not wear a condom then you should keep the baby. Unless you were raped or something along those lines...

RustiRockstar
04-12-2008, 06:43 AM
In my personal opinion, I'm against it entirely.
But I'm not going to try to make everyone be on my side.
I don't think taking a life in any instance is okay.
Because the child is alive.
Always.
Zygote or not.

DitchTheBagel
04-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Abortions, one of the best ideas ever thought up. How can you relate having an abortion to killing your child? As far as I'm concerned, the child isn't truely alive until it has left the womb. However in the first few weeks where an abortion is an option, I'm sure the "child" doesn't even know it's alive yet. Inverted commas because it isn't even a child at that stage. It's a positive aspect in places like China where accidental pregnancies can be a lead cause of overpopulation.

Spanky [:
04-26-2008, 07:12 PM
I disagree with abortion alot, i've always hated it since the day i knew what it was. :/ i don't like the thought of babies or children getting killed for no reason. Look at the amount of people who would kill for a baby and you just go abort it? :/ hmm. If someones been like raped or has a high chance of dying during giving birth then i think they're proper reasons. Not "ohh i'm some stupid 13 year old who has sex with everyone and hasnt heard of protection so ill just kill my child." eurgh ¬_¬

Adoption or fostering maybe?
yep.

WickedlyNate
04-26-2008, 08:42 PM
It should be out there for people to have that option.
But it should be limited to special situations, not just "Oh, I think I'll get rid of my kid."
But again, if you want to, that is your choice.

PestimisticAngel
04-12-2010, 01:54 AM
I'm gonna sound confussed but, I feel that a woman should do what she wants with her body. Also though a woman shouldnt have an abortion cause she wants to get back at the dad, get the dad mad, she doesnt like kids (although everyone doesnt have healthcare), she doesnt want kids (although everyone doesnt have healthcare). I feel a woman should have an aborion if it is endangering her life and or the babies life. (As mean as his sounds) If the baby is gonna be born and suffering in this world and if she was rapped.