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*Does a Lou.Lou*
So what's your opinions on it?
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Fanfriggintastic
04-11-2008, 12:09 AM
*Does a Lou.Lou*
So what's your opinions on it?
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I am both sided. I am 100% against it if it's to slow population or to put down a certain breed. If the animal is very ill, or got it by a car or some other tragic experience happens and isn't expected to survive, then yes, put the poor baby out of it's misery. Any other situation, absolutely not.
Common mis-understanding;
Euthanasia can include humans too, not just animals.
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Fanfriggintastic
04-11-2008, 12:40 AM
Common mis-understanding;
Euthanasia can include humans too, not just animals.
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Oooh I was thinking Animals, since that's what people usually associate euthenasia with...Well I just recently heard about this. It is trying to get legalized to where people who are terminally ill and given 6 months or less to live can have their family or themselves agree to this.
And actually, My grandma died last night. It wasn't a sudden thing. She was suffering from terminal cancer for the last year. She went from 150lbs to 70lbs and couldnt walk, hardly breath or talk for the past 6 months. When she did mumble, shed' mutter that she wanted to just go, meaning pass on. Although I think that's awful to have to decide, I do believe it isn't a terrible thing in certain situations. She honestly would have been in less pain a long time ago had they done that. Instead she sat there gasping for air, wetting herself, not eating, begging to die for 6 months. I think in that situation if she wanted to go, we'd be doing something good for her instead of letting her wait to die. No one should have to suffer like she did. So I think if they are terminally ill with no hope of survival and given 6 months or less to live, and they don't want to wait that 6 months and they'd rather end their suffering early, let them chose that.
I wanted to add that I think this is the ONLY situation human euthenasia should be even considered. I don't think that people who want to commit suicide should be allowed to do this, only in serious situations such as terminally ill and given a timeline of life.
Lou.Lou
04-11-2008, 11:14 PM
*Does a Lou.Lou*
So what's your opinions on it?
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=0 *does a dan*
*kills Dan =0*
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back to my opinion now.
i think its okay in certain circumstances.
were people cant live sorta thing
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Nathan
04-12-2008, 08:35 AM
We're studying this in Law because we're learning about whather things are legall/morally right.
Euthanasia, IN MY OPINION, should be legal.
It's horrible having to watch someone you love go through the 'dying process' where they get worse and worse and worse. It's a horrible experience that I wouldnt wish on anybody.
I think euthanasia should be allowed in circumstances such as terminal cancer, motor neurone disease etc. It allows people to die in dignity rather than slowly and painfully.
Sitting back and just watching that loved one waste away is horrible.
Buttt, on the other hand, euthanasia is 'assisted suicide' which I personally would never be able to do. Not even to a loved one. I couldnt take their life from them.
I'm kinda double sided, maybe doctors could be the one to administor the euthanasia.
Morbid_Mandi
04-12-2008, 08:37 AM
in any situation where the subject being discussed is in pain that can not be fixed, or they are expected to die then yes it is okay
any other situation, no, it is not correct
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Nathan
04-12-2008, 08:41 AM
It would need to be monitored very very strictly.
There are some people out there who could claim that it's 'what the person wanted' when in fact its not.
The only way it could work is probably with 'official consent' from a doctor or some other form of medical professional.
Morbid_Mandi
04-12-2008, 08:44 AM
yes, I agree
there are people who would claim to be looking out for the persons best interest, when they really werent/arent
it would have to be monitered by the doctors or you would need official consent
lol
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Jaymee-Marie
04-12-2008, 08:52 AM
to have 2 doctors both say yes i think it should be legal. My grandad was terminally ill and he was told he had 6 months to live he ended up living another 9 YEARS!. this was 18 years ago though.
_Davey
04-15-2008, 03:16 PM
Very difficult subject. But yes I believe it should be allowed. Theres such a thing as Living Wills now anyway, so if you say in it that you want your life support machine turned off in the event of something happening then they have to. Yeah, it should be allowed in certain situations.
I think aslong as the person petitioning for euthenasia is MENTALLY able to make that kind of suggestion, it should definately be allowed as an option.
Sometimes as the body deteriorates, the mind goes with it, and they sometimes can talk nonsence... and may make irrational statements... such as asking for assisted suicide.
If the person is deemed mentally able to make the full desision that it's what he/she wants, plus extensive consideration by a medical panel, I think that it should definately be allowed.
Think about it. If you're an elderly man/woman who's led an extensive, fantastic, exciting life with lots of happy memories and acheivements, are you really going to want your last 6 months alive having all that taken away from you? Your memory will go - you wont remember your adventures. Your organs will slowly fail.. you wont even be able to hold pictures of your travels, or talk about them, you wont be able to share what you've seen with anyone else.. and that must be frustrating. Like, REALLY frustrating.
Jaymee-Marie
04-19-2008, 08:37 AM
if like i said there was 2 different doctors who did not know the patient.
they both would have to agree to it.
i think it should be made legal but they would have to have such strict guidlines.
XDanielleX
04-19-2008, 08:43 AM
My uncle died of cancer and he was in so much pain that some days he couldn't talk. I don't see why it can't be administered to humans when it is used in animals so often. After all, aren't humans animals as well? It would have to be strictly watched, though, because it could be abused. So long as the person who is going to have it administered to them agreed, or if the doctors saw it in the best interests of the patient if they were no longer lucid, then I think it should be allowed.
Jaymee-Marie
04-19-2008, 08:50 AM
having such a strong drug that is fatal and LEGAL. you know will be abused to some point
XDanielleX
04-19-2008, 08:54 AM
I can just see people using it to kill their old grandparents to get their inheritance earlier... Or grudges in the family could cause a member to just kill the person who is sick so they get out of their lives. :(
Jaymee-Marie
04-19-2008, 08:55 AM
yeh i can see a rise in bugularies and more death
XDanielleX
04-19-2008, 08:57 AM
Imagine if the drug got into the black market... Ugh! Imagine the damage then!
But I think in a controlled environment it would be okay in certain circumstances (like I said before).
Jaymee-Marie
04-19-2008, 08:58 AM
yeh me too
xAllie831x
04-19-2008, 08:11 PM
With humans:
I agree with what a few people on here were saying... If a person is mentally capable of making that choice and they add it to their wills or request it, yes they should be able to get the assisted suicide. If they are suffering, they deserve a chance to escape from their pain. My grandma was fine until 2005 when we were told she had two large "tumors" on her large intestine. Now, we were in a suburb in Arizona at the time, and when doctors there looked at them it was found that they were two large blood clots formed after a negligent Chicago doctor (some hospitals here are horrific) had her on a blood thinner for a long period of time, and eventually the blood collected in tissues that swelled. (Coumadin... It's used for short periods of time, but he had her on it long term.) So, they got her body regulated, but the shock from the illness and surgery caused Alzheimers to kick in and now she is extremely forgetful, weak, forced to go to dialysis three times a week, and suffering constantly. We are taking care of her now, but... What if she needs another surgery? She'll end up bedridden, possibly enter another stage, and just keep suffering. :( I have no interest in her money, and neither does my dad or aunt, but I think they feel the same way. The people that are against it either have never seen people and their families suffer or are in the rich ultra-conservative religious minority that sadly has a loud voice and strong pull. :( I know for a fact that if I ever suffered like that, I wouldn't want to live... Sad but true.
Now, what if a person is not in the right mental state? I think there should be okays from various doctors saying that the person is having a poor quality of life in addition to an okay from whomever has medical and legal power of attorney... Something will have to be done right with all of those consents.
With Animals:
If an animal is suffering, yes. (I had to deal with this as well... My first dog was put to sleep when she could barely walk.) If it's to control overpopulation, no! Killing is killing, not saving or helping like some people suggest. There are organizations that take in animals regardless of their health (in America we have small shelters like PAWS and Best Friends Animal Society in Utah, for example) and if we'd spay and neuter more dogs and cats we wouldn't have the overpopulation problem.
Jaymee-Marie
04-20-2008, 12:22 AM
totally agree with you allie xx
xAllie831x
04-20-2008, 07:28 AM
totally agree with you allie xx
Yay ^^ Haha I'm glad someone does... Whenever I bring this up people call me a murderer, cruel person, etc.
Oh, do you remember Terry Schiavo? The braindead American woman (all "most Americans ARE braindead" jokes aside :p) they took off life support?
When I was back in Catholic School we had a priest that would lecture us every Thursday about moral issues, and that was a main issue for a while...
I still remember arguing with him, saying she's suffering and is probably brain dead while he was saying "that's violation of god's law! so you are saying you want her dead?" and almost everyone in my class (6th grade I think...) had no idea what was going. The teacher was arguing with me, and my friend was sitting across the room laughing her head off, and eventually they told me to keep quiet because I didn't know what I was talking about and my views conflicted with the "love" of the church.
Well, months later when I raised my head to ask how he felt about "the recent findings" (it was found that she was brain-dead and her brain's size was much smaller then a normal human's) they sent me to the office for "talking back". I was amazed... They couldn't even admit they made a huge mistake. This makes me wonder about the priest molestation charges that keep happening... The church really does cover up its scandals and faults just to try and show how all-knowing it is. :mad:
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